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Sunday, January 22, 2006

Vermont Sucks

To be honest, I don't much like Vermont. It feels really good to beat them. I hated all the attention they got in their Cinderella season last year - part of that was jealousy from playing second fiddle for a couple seasons, part of that was my love of my other favorite team, the Syracuse Orangemen. There's nobody I'd rather go to the Greek and cheer against and hurl various insults at.

But that said, it's nice having them around - what's fun about sports if you don't have a fun, evenly-matched rivalry?

One question for Vermont fans: please tell me what the M in "UVM" is so I can stop making fun of it?

10 Comments:

At 9:34 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Universitas Verdes Mountes or University of the Green Mountains.

 
At 12:12 AM, Blogger Tall-boy said...

In all seriousness -- I appreciate the info!! It's really been something I've been trying to find out since I started following BU basketball. I even asked a bunch of Vermont students at Patrick Gym a few years ago, nobody had an answer

Btw, rough game for both sides today, huh!

 
At 2:08 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes, it twas a rough game. As a Vermont fan, I will officially hate Corey Hassan forever, but in a good way. I think he is going to be one of those players that every other team in the conference is going to hate because he will drill the big shot on you. Poor man's Ae version of JJ Redick possibly.

The funny thing about the UVM thing is, the president of the school when he first got here, didn't want to use UVM anymore, and he actually slowly faded it out in most places on campus and in merchandise and replaced it with just a 'V' for logos. There still are items like shirts that say "UVM Basketball", but there are not many and most everything says "Vermont Basketball/Hockey etc" That is fine I suppose, but the U-V-M chant is going to be around for ever and UVM is just easier to say...you really can't faze out something that has been around and easy to recognize for 100 years or whatever.

 
At 5:06 PM, Blogger ginzo said...

I'm sorry guys. I love your site, think its great fun and all, but I can't get down with the jealosy of Vermont for all that they did for the conference over the past 3 years. Face it, they were able to do what BU wasn't... Coppenrath was the best player the conference has seen since Tunji and Malik, and conference probably wont see another of his ilk for a long, long time to come... I am a die hard BU fan, but I was pulling for Vermont all the way against syracuse last year...

 
At 12:33 AM, Blogger Tall-boy said...

Anonymous dude, thanks for the interesting tidbits on vermont. I couldn't imagine erasing the nickname UVM, you just can't do that. It would be like requiring people to say "Boston" and trying to eliminate "BU"!

And I think Corey has a long way to go before Hassan reaches the vitriol level of Redick, but if he can continues to develop and gets some help from his teammates in taking the pressure off him, he could get there. For the record, I can see the same thing happening with Trimboli - should be fun to watch them go head-to-head at least 7 times over the next 4 years.

 
At 12:46 AM, Blogger Tall-boy said...

Ginzo - i don't feel the same need to pull for Vermont that you do. I don't care what they did for the America East - I don't root for any conference, I root for a team. And that's BU. Sure, many people thought it was a nice feel-good story, but for me it was a feel-nauseous story. But that's because they are BU's rivals, and I wished BU were there instead (and a lot of those feelings probably go back to the heartbreaking AE championship at The Roof 3 years ago). And I wouldn't ever expect Vermont fans to root for BU in the same situation.

Coppenrath was certainly an impressive player, and one of the best the conference ever had - but why does that mean fans of BU, Northeastern, and Maine have to root for him (or Tunji Awojobi or Malik Rose for that matter)? I respected his game, but I didn't have to like him or that team. I'm not really interested in a love-fest between all the teams we play every year.

Would you ever imagine Duke fans rooting for UNC in last years NCAA Finals just because it's good for the ACC???

 
At 4:12 PM, Blogger ginzo said...

The America east is different than the ACC or any big conference. Duke wining in the tourney does not help UNC. When I was a die hard Umass Amherst basketball fan I never rooted for other teams in the conference. However, for a tiny, unknown conference like the AE, anything that gets the conference Publicity helps every team in the conference. Vermont's win last year might help BU (if they make the tourney), not play in the play in game. It helps get more people interested in the conference, more fans generates more money for the schools. If you think that Vermont's win didn't play a factor into Albany getting a game in the Bracket Buster weekend, then ur nuts. To compare the AE to the ACC is insane, its like comparing apples to oranges...

Plus, I don't care who he played for, you have to love a college basketball player like Taylor, not only was he outstanding, but he was the epitome of a class act and nice guy... its not like were talking about Marcus Barnes here...

 
At 6:21 PM, Blogger Tall-boy said...

Yes, I realize the America East is not the ACC, but that wasn't my point. My point is that you don't root for your biggest rivals. At least I don't. I don't much care about the conference publicity - if BU's going to get noticed, they can do it with their own continued solid play. And they did a good job of that over the last 4 years, getting those NIT bids. That wasn't due to anybody else's success but their own.

A win like that makes Vermont look like the most successful team in the league (which they are). I'd rather BU were looked at as the most successful program in the league. In order for that to happen, teams like Vermont have to lose those games, and BU has to win them when they get the chance. Just my opinion on the matter

 
At 9:13 PM, Blogger ginzo said...

I'm sorry, when BU played Vermont, or any other team, I wanted to pound them. But whatever team from the AE that made the tourney, even if not BU, I was rooting like hell for them. 1-3 over the past 4 years in the tourney for the conference is much better than 0-4. Vermont's win last year was maybe the biggest in conference history, and I was damn happy for them. what an amazing game...

 
At 10:10 PM, Blogger Tall-boy said...

Definitely an exciting game.... we just have different views on this particular subject -- but Syracuse being my life-long favorite team didn't help endear Vermont to me either!

 

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